Michael Caine and Katie Holmes star in Warner Bros. Picturesā Batman Begins as Bruce Wayneās trusted butler Alfred Pennyworth and close childhood friend Rachel Dawes, respectively. The two talked to ComingSoon.net/SuperheroHype.com about the anticipated new comic book adaptation:
Q: Were you a fan of the Batman franchise before becoming involved with the film?
Michael Caine: Well, they were all sort of different. They all sort of came out at different times, so there was nothing to be a fan of. But I saw them all and liked most of them, I must say, yeah. But when I got this script, it was called āBatman Begins,ā and I wondered about that. And then when I read the script I realized itās true: Batman begins. Itās a whole new thing and a whole new way, the way Chris has done it. Itās what made me do it. It wouldnāt be much point to just playing an ordinary butler in another āBatmanā ā coming in and saying, āDinner is served.ā But the way it was written and the way it was treated ā my respect for Christopher Nolan as a director, having seen the other two pictures he made. I was also intrigued that the man who directed āInsomniaā and āMementoā would be directing a big budget movie like this, and they trusted him with it. You know, $180 million. But I figured he could do it, and it was so different that I loved it. Iāve seen the picture now and I really love it.
Q: Alfred in comics, Rachel new to the film: how did each of you approach characters?
Caine: Do you want to start that one?
Katie Holmes: It was a thrill to get the role of Rachel. What I liked about her was her strength and sheās the type of person that you can tell sheās worked hard for everything sheās ever got. And sheās very tough and she wants to save Gotham City and make a difference. There was so much back story already there: She grew up with Bruce; she grew up in that house; her mom was a servant. So it was pretty much all there on the page. It was fun to think about different experiences Rachel and Bruce had together growing up and how that came into play as they got older, added into their closeness.
Caine: My one, I did a back story on mine. I wanted to be the toughest butler youāve ever seen, not the normal English, suave butler. And so I made him an SAS sergeant, which is a very, very tough British army unit. Heās wounded; he didnāt want to leave the army. He became the sergeant in charge of the sergeantās cantina or sergeantās mess as itās called in the British army. And he got found by Bruce Wayneās father, who wanted the toughest butler he could find, and thatās what he got. And I used the voice of my original sergeant when I joined the British army. Itās his voice. Thatās the back story, and Iām waiting for Christopher Nolan to do āAlfred: The Beginning.ā
Q: Either signed for another installment?
Caine: Only mentally.
Holmes: Yes, exactly.
Caine: Weād both do it in a minute. But weāre not signed.
Q: How was the experience filming the movie?
Holmes: Great.
Caine: It was great fun. It was a good movie to work on. And it was quiet. Thereās none of the shouting and bawling. Heās a very quiet man, Christopher. When he directs ā you know, Iām a bit deaf ā I kept saying, āWhat did he say?ā
Holmes: I did the same. I know.
Caine: Heās so quiet. You think, āIām going deaf.ā But Iām not. Heās just quiet. What you get from Christopher is heās very quiet, but you better do exactly what youāre supposed to do, otherwise his voice might get louder. So you do it and hope he doesnāt notice anything. And thatās it. Heās a wonderful director.
Holmes: A wonderful leader on the set.
Q: Christian saw himself as an animal the first time he saw himself in costume. Your impressions?
Caine: He looked like an animal, didnāt he? And we made him. No, Alfred and Batman make the uniform. Obviously we didnāt make the uniform. The first time I saw it, I opened a cupboard on the set, and it was in there and made me jump. It was just sitting there. I think itās the most sinister Batman outfit Iāve ever seen. Itās very sinister. Very hard, and itās not shiny. Batman was always shiny. And the Batmobile was [always] shiny. But this looks like, you know ā¦
Holmes: Real.
Caine: The Batmobile looks like youād be safer on the outside than driving it. You could die driving the bloody thing. Better to run away from it.
Q: What do your characters fear, and what do you fear?
Holmes: I donāt think Rachel fears anything in this movie. And I donāt fear anything, so it works out.
Caine: My main fear in the movie is that Batman will lose his moral convictions and get carried away with the power he has. In real life, Iām afraid of heights and people who get moral convictions.
Q: Katie, how do you stay grounded?
Holmes: Iām happy.
Q: What makes you happy?
Holmes: Iām so excited about āBatmanā coming up this summer. I just saw the movie last week and Iām thrilled with it and excited to be promoting it and happy for the world to see it. Iām really happy about my personal life ā totally in love. Iām a very lucky woman.
Q: What did Tom Cruise think about āBatmanā?
Holmes: He loved it. He loved the movie.
Q: We saw him in the hotel. Did he come out to support you?
Holmes: Yeah, yeah.
Caine: They were kissing in the corridor.
Holmes: (giggles) Yes, we were.
Q: Did you say anything to them?
Caine: Oh, Iāve known Tom a long time. I know him pretty well.
Q: Michael, you literally wrote the book on acting. Is there anything left for you to learn on a movie set?
Caine: I learn the whole time. I think it would be dull if I thought I was going to work and wouldnāt find something new. We always learn. What did I learn on this movie? Stay out of the way of the bats ā¦ keep your head down.
Q: Katie, after getting over intimidation of working with these actors, where do you want to go from here?
Holmes: Iām really proud of this film and I had such a great time working with these amazing actors. I like being part of good movies and telling stories that mean something to me. I also like playing characters that I look up to.
Q: The cast is almost entirely British. Why did he cast an American as the love interest?
Holmes: Youāll have to ask him.
Caine: The market.
Holmes: But Iām glad ā¦ Itās me, Michael, itās me.
Caine: I didnāt mean it like that.
Q: What was the first movie you saw Michael in? How do you get over the intimidation of working with him?
Holmes: āAlfie.ā
Caine: Iāve come up in the world because Iām now called Alfred.
Holmes: āAlfieā was my first movie, and Michael, he made me laugh.
Caine: We had a lot of laughs on the movie. You have to.
Q: Your Alfie was a bigger hit than the remake.
Caine: Iām kind of sad really, because Jude Law is a friend of mine and I hoped it would be a hit for him. I want everyone to be a success, and I especially want him to be a success, because I want to do a remake of āSleuthā with him and if that had been a big hit, we would have gotten the money easier. Weāve got a rewrite by Harold Pinter and itās a very interesting Ć¢ā¬ā anyway, it doesnāt matter. But Jude is a wonderful actor anyway. My view is that you should always remake failures because then youāve got nowhere to go but up. They canāt say, āItās not as good as that.ā You make a piece of crap, they say āWell, itās a piece of crap like that was.ā (Laughs)
Q: Any thoughts on how youād like to see your characters developed for sequels?
Caine: Longer. Bigger, Iād like it to be a bigger character.
Holmes: Yes, more screen time.
Caine: More screen time. Yes.
Q: What was it like working with Christian?
Caine: Oh, heās great to work with. Completely dedicated. Physically, if you saw what he did with himself, heās so big. Iād seen him in American Psycho and when they said, Chrisian, I said, āHeās kind of thin for Batman.ā
Holmes: And he got thinner.
Caine: I didnāt know about it. Otherwise, I would have freaked out if I had seen that, The Machinist. But then when I walked on the set thereās Arnold Schwarzenegger standing there. I went, āOoops.ā
Q: Katie, is there another comic franchise you would like to see yourself involved in? Wonder Woman or something like that?
Holmes: I really like, I loved working on this movie, Batman Begins. I loved this story and Iād love to do another Batman movie.
Q: Cillian was creepy in the movie. How was that acting opposite him?
Holmes: He was creepy in the movie, wasnāt he?
Caine: He was incredible, wasnāt he. Iād never come across him before. I never even met him in the movie. I met him the other day in London when we were doing this.
Q: He looked kind of short next to you?
Holmes: Oh. (Laughs)
Caine: Itās not your fault.
Holmes: I didnāt do it, I didnāt do it.
Q: It seemed like you hardly had any eye contact in your scenes together.
Holmes: Well, thatās because he was playing a criminal. Thatās why. It was wonderful working with Cillian. Heās a great actor.
Caine: You see, I didnāt work with him.
Holmes: He was great. We had a nice time.
Caine: Boy, he was creepy in the movie.
Holmes: I didnāt like that mask. I mean, I liked it, but it was creepy.
Q: For both, what was your most surreal moment on set?
Caine: For me, it was when I walked into the Batcave for the first time, which was a set at Shepperton Studios on this big sound stage. Which, coincidentally, was the first place I ever played a scene anywhere in any movie. It was the same place. It was so weird. I made a tiny little film called A Hill in Korea, a British Army picture, when I was very young and I had eight lines in the picture and I screwed up six of them. It was on this stage that I said the very first line in a movie and then there was this great big bat place. And then, I said āThose are great false bats in the ceiling.ā He said, āTheyāre not false Michael, theyāre real. Theyāre asleep. Donāt wake them up, whatever you do.ā And then the waterfalls started, and everything. It was this massive set, really massive.
Holmes: I think the first time I walked into Gotham City, because that was in this huge hangerĆ¢ā¬Ā¦
Caine: Oh, that was incredible. It was an airship hanger. Remember those old airships? That was big, that would take two airships and that massive Gotham set was about an eighth of that building, wasnāt it? There was masses of it left over. Itās an incredible place.
Holmes: It was so much fun.
Caine: Iāve got news for you about the sequel and I havenāt told anyone this. They havenāt pulled that set down.
Holmes: I know.
Caine: There may be a sequel. (Laughs)
Holmes: We should just go hang there.
Caine: Yeah. The set is still there. And itās really Chicago. It was very funny. Iād just done a picture in Chicago called āThe Weather Manā with Nicolas Cage, which is not out yet. And then I went straight back to Chicago to shoot, and I was in exactly the same place, but it was Gotham City. And it was quite weird. Very strange.
Batman Begins takes over theaters and IMAX on Wednesday, June 15.
Source: Andrew Weil